tiʁʔi ani mehaːmaxzoʁ /

look I belong to the age group

mibxinathasedeʁ /

for the order

zelo ha# bagil zelo haja kaxa aval mibxinat /

it is not#by the age it is not like this but from a point of view

anihamaxzoʁ haʃliʃi beajelethaʃaxaʁ //

from the third age group in ayelet hashchar

klomaʁ //

it means

kolkvutsat /

each age group

kolmaxzoʁ zehaja kvutsa ʃelkama gilim //

each group was consisted of several ages

kiːːː //

since

jaxolajalijot /

it could be

jeledexad migilexad veod /

one kid of a certain age and another one

ʃnejeladim hajumigil X nagid //

two kids of the age of let's say

jeledexad /

one kid

habekita alef //

in the first grade

veexad bekita daled /

and one in the forth grade

veexad bekitagimel //

and another one in the third grade

aze kolhala kolhamxzoʁ //

that was the whole group

zeamaxzoʁ haʁiʃon /

that was the first group

XXX

lo aniajiti bamaxzoʁaʃliʃi //

no i was in the third group

gamken bekita im X /

also in a class with

ʃehajta muʁkevet mi# //

which was consisted of of two of two classes

mi //

ʃnej /

ʃtejkitot /

otaakvutsa //

the same group

miʃnej ʃtejkvutsotgil //

of two age groups

kaaʃeʁaminʔad ʃehajabenaze /

while the gap that was between this

ajabeʁexeː /

was about

kimʔat ʃnatajim //

almost two years

ojoteʁbe //

he is older by

benaːtseiʁim bejoteʁ //

between the youngest

amevugjoteʁ bekvutsa //

and the oldest in the group

avalamadnu jaxad beota kita //

but we studied together in the same class

tiʁʔi haxajim beajelethaʃaxaʁ /

look the life in ayelet hashachar

hajuaː /

were

aːnagid kaxa //

let say like this

milimed otxem //

who was teaching that

malamdtem /

and what did you learn

ʁegaʁegli ##

wait a minute before we have learned

lifnej ʃelamadnuaːːː /

(laughter)

aːːː //

hum

hahahoʁim aju meat me //

the parents were slightly

meat meod /

very slightly

meod meod meod meod //

very very very very slightly

meuʁavim be /

involved in the

bexajehajeladim //

in the children's life

vehaːjeladim ze haju sviv atsmam //

the children lived around themselves

sviv haːːː /

around the

ze hit# matxil mehagan veaxaʁkax meha# /

it was starting from the kindergarden and later

veaxakax ma /

mehabetsefeʁ //

from the school

veʃel xevʁat hajeladim ʃelo hajta xevʁat jeladim meurgenet //

and also of the kids company that was not an organised children's company

lo haja meʁakez xevʁat jeladim //

there was not a kid's coordinator

aval hajladim haju im atsmam //

but the kids were by themselves

ʁov ʃʔot hajom //

most of the daytime

lo im hahoʁim veloim haze //

not with the parents and not with the

bixlaleːːː //

in general

haja keʃeʁ mod /

there was a connection

ima ʃeli ʃehajta ktsat joteʁeː /

my mother that was a little bit more

iʃa daaganit ktsat //

woman worrier

vezeare hajeladim haju tsoxakim alaj //

that's why the kids were laughing at me

ima ʃli hajta joteʁ midajeː //

my mother was too much

kaxa //

such as

meː //

hum

hiata koʁetli //

she used to call me "sizkind" (honey)

zeʔjeled matok //

sweet kid

azajeladim haju tsoxkim alaj ken //

and the kids were laughing at me yes

haima ʃeli eː //

my mother yes

lo hibiu az ʁegaʃot veː //

feelings were not expressed at that time

zehu ve /

that's it and

vekaxa beika# ze haju haxajim im ajeladim haju legamʁe //

and that's mainly that's how was the life with the children

axʃav gam mibxinat lina /

now regarding also the accomodation

lo haja baʁuʁ od kol hanose ʃel /

it was not clear the whole issue of

lina meʃutefet //

communal accomodation

lina miʃpaxtit //

family accomodation

efo gaʁim hajladim //

where the children live

hajta ejze tkufa //

there was a time

haju gam eːdatej linot //

there were also accomodation buildings

hajta ejze tkufa nagid haja bajit /

there was a time let say there was a building

mipneʃeː //

since

min ʁa# bajit ʁakevet kaze ʃehaju bo aʁbaːːː //

a kind of long building with four

aʁba diʁot //

four appartments

ken az badiʁa hakitsonit gaʁa miʃpaxa //

yes in the last apartment lived a family

ʃeze miʃpaxa ze omeʁ aaba aima /

family means a father and a mother

veulaj im jeʃ lahem gam hoʁim az gam hahoʁim jeʃ tam //

and maybe if they have parents so the parents as well

batsad haʃeni /

on the other hand

od miʃpaxa /

another family

vebaemtsa haju hajeladim ʃel ʃtej hamiʃpaxot /

and in the middle were the children of the two families

veod jeladim ʃel miʃpaxot axeʁot ze //

with children of other families

ʃenagid jihe ezeʃehu pikuax /

in order to have a kind of supervision

balajla alajeladim /

at night on the kids

aval /

but

hajeladim levad /

the children were left alone

tomeʁ ze haxedeʁ ʃelahem /

that's mean this is their home

ze bixlal loʃajax la /

it does not belong to the

ze gam lo haknisaota /

this is not an entrance this also not the same entrance

lo ota knisa lozelo //

not the same entrance, no

hahoʁim ʃeli lemaʃal gaʁu imima ʃelaeː /

my parents lived for example with their mother

im ima ʃel ima ʃeli //

the moth mother of my mother

ʃehajta veze //

that was and that

veanaxnueːːː /

and we eh

ani veod eːːː //

me and other eh

jeladim gaʁnu baemtsa ben ʃnej ha /

kids lived in the middle in between the two

ze haːʃita axat hazeʃe //

that was one way (method)

ʃita axeʁet hajta kamuvan halinaːːː /

another way was the communal

hamʃutefet ʃeː /

accomodation that

hamefuʁsemet ʃel hatnuʔa hakibutsit //

the famous method of the kibbutz mouvment

ʃehaju kol hajladim /

there were all the kids

gaʁim bebnej bebatim /

live among themselves in buildings

haiti omeʁ ʃehatipul bebe /

I would say that the care of

bajladim //

the children

bebatehajladim //

in the children's homes

haja behexlet tipul tov haja ːːː /

it was definitely good care there were nannies that

metaplot ʃeː /

hiʃkiu haʁbe meod //

invested a great deal and don't think that

vealo xoʃev ʃe: //

lo tamid ahavnu otam /

we do not always loved them

ki hemaju doʁʃot eː //

because they pushed

ktsat sedeʁ vemiʃmaat //

some order and discipline

aval leumat zeao /

but on the other hand the pare-

haːkeʃeʁ im hahoʁim haja meod meod ʁofef //

the contact with the parents was very loose

aomeʁ edze /

I say this

beaxʁəjut mlea //

with full responsibility

zeloːːː //

it is not

zelo ʃeaoʁim lo ʁatsu //

it is not that the parents did not want

ani ʁaiti ʃama ʃeimaʃli ʁəa /

I saw there that my mother

ʁatsta //

wanted

ʃeze ani lo ʁatsiti //

it was me that did not want

ztomeʁet zehaja biʃvili ktsat buʃa //

that is to say it was a kind of shame for me

ʃeːːː /

that

joteʁ midaj mitaʁevet ʃoelet /

she is interfering too much asking

efo hajitem /

where have you been

ma asitem nagido //

what have you done let say

olximeː /

we were going

beʃabatot //

Saturdays Saturdays generally

ʃabatot hem bəxlal /

lebla# loajiti bi# //

lI was not not not in

olxim kama jeladim letajel /

some children go for walk

olxim laXXX //

go to the

naxal kiʃon at jodateː /

to the Kishon river you know

liʁot tadagim /

to watch the fish

ʃamaju dagim //

there were fish

o leleagam axula XXX //

or to the Hula lake

jeʃamsviva melea kfaʁim aʁavim /

the area is full with arab villages

o leitʁa# /

or to swi

o leitʁaxets baagam /

or to swim in the lake

hem lojadu edze ani xoʃevet //

they did not know it I think

baagam axula //

in the Hula lake

kʃhem haju jeladim //

when they were young kids

hem haju XXX im haxaveʁim ʃlahem //

they were with friends

o leitʁaxets beagamaxula veːːː /

or to swim in the Hula lake and

aoʁim bixlal loajueː /

the parents were not involved in this at all

meoʁavim bezeː //

ejfo aita ma asita //

where have you been what have you done

kiem aju asukim bebebnijat hakibuts be //

since they were busy buil- building the Kibbutz

beisaʁdut hajiti omeʁ joteʁ maʃeʁ bnijat akibuts //

in survival I would say

haja tnaim meod meod /

the conditions were very very

meod meod meod kaʃim //

very very very tough

bəxlal //

in general

zeaze kaxa aja me# /

that's it how it was

ajta ajaldut adeː /

there was a childhood until

ʃeitxalnu ktsat ajanu betsefeʁ //

that we began with school

avalze kvaʁ joteʁ eːːː //

but this is more eh

joteʁ ajaːːː ze //

it was more

lo ajiti omeʁ ʃelamadnuːːː /

I would not say that we have studied

mi jodea ma //

who knows what (who knows how much)

aːːː /

aa

vegam /

and also

kaxa /

like this

tiʁi //

look

lehavi moʁim tovim /

to bring good teachers

leajelethaʃaxaʁ /

to Ayelet Hashchar

veim aju moʁim tovim betelaviv /

and if there were good teachers in Tel Aviv

o bexefa /

or in Haifa

leavi otam leajelethaʃaxaʁ ze sipuʁ /

to bring them to Ayelet Hashchar was a big deal

XXX tsʁixim laguʁ XXX

they have to live

az ajiti omeʁ ʃeamoʁim lo aju amoʁim axiːːː /

so I would say that the teachers were not the most

veːːːajeladim /

and the children

gam loatsu limod /

also did not want to study

veaja kaze /

and there were such

aju afilu makot ben jəladim vemoʁim /

There were even beaten between the children and the teachers

aju //

kol minej /

all kinds of

ejʁuim ʃeeme hajom e /

events that today are

leleani lo male al da# al daati //

I cannot imagine

avalaːmaʁnu exʃeu /

but eh we said somehow

niodea ma lamadnu anideae //

I know what we studied I know what

aju osim taxaʁujot bexeʃbon /

there were math competitions

az ani ajiti tov bexeʃbon /

so I was good in math

(laughter) azajitize /

(laughter) so I was

ad ajom //

until today

ken //

yes

(laughter)

az e:: //

so eh

zeu kaxe /

that's it

ani jaxol lesapeʁ eze eʁua exad meanjen //

I can tell you one interesting event

ʃemigilaːːː /

from the age ah

migil aatsaiʁ //

from the young age

ajinu bekita alef //

we were in the first grade

bekita bet maʃu kaze //

in the second grade something like this

ajinu ʃmona jeladim //

we were eight kids

veːːː //

ehem

veadavaʁ ʃaxi aavnu ze tijul //

the most loved was the trip

imaja jom jafe baxuts /

if there was beautiful weather outside

ajeladim meabokeʁ tsoakim //

the children from the morning shouting

ajom tijul /

today a trip

ʁotsim tijulːːːamoʁim lo aju nixnaim /

we want a trip the teachers were not giving up

olximltajel //

go for a walk

veaavnu noʁa letajel /

we loved so much to go for trips

basadot lean lo //

in the fields and where not

jom exad eːːːgam kenkaze jom daʁaʃnu tijulk# //

one day and also because we insisted to have a trip

zaajom /

it was

xamsin meod xazak //

a very hot day

ajta lanu moʁa /

we had a teacher

kazu mineːːː /

such a kind of eh

iʃa adina kazot /

such a gentle woman

iajta moʁa axaʁkax hamon ʃanim bəajelet aʃaxaʁ //

she was later a teacher in Ayelet Hashchar for many years

iajta moʁa tova kəniʁe //

she was probably a good teacher

zot amenaelet /

this is the principal

ʃanalon az iajta menaelet betsefeʁ //

Shoshana Alon was then the principal

avali ajta mini# jetsuʁ kaze //

but she was such a creature

adin /

delicate

veʃav# /

and frag

niʁata ketsipoʁ //

looked like a bird

ʃavʁiʁi //

fragile

ken //

yes

ktsat kmo tsipoʁ igam ajta //

a little bit like a bird she also was

txefani //

soon I

niʁet ktsat //

looked a little bit

ktantonet ken //

tiny yes

ajta olexeteːːː /

she walked

ex ajinu omʁim tamid /

how we always used to say

bimej geʃem hi ajta magiaː /

on rainy days she used to come

bli mitʁija ajta olexet ben atipot //

without an umbrella and was walking between the raindrops

aju omʁim alea ʃei olexet ben atipot //

it was said about her that she walks between the raindrops

(laughter)

aja /

it was

(laughter)

iajta olexet xa imaiton alaʁoʃ //

she was walking with the newspaper over her head

maxzika taeze ʃela //

holding it

lo leeʁatev //

not to get wet

in the summer with such a kerchief

moʁa adina //

a gentle girl

alkaniʁe ajta mora tova //

but she probably was a good teacher

aval anaxnu lo aavnu //

but we did not like her

ajeladim o# lo oavim tamoʁim en ma laasot //

kids do not love the teacher there is nothing to do about it

e bekitsuʁ daʁaʃnu tijul /

in short we were insisting to have a trip

olxim letijul //

going for a walk

zajom xamsin noʁai //

it was a terrible hot day

jeʃ beajeletaʃaxaʁ makom ʃenikʁa xuʁʃat aekaliptus //

there is an Eucalyptus grove in Ayelet HaShahar

olxim lexuʁʃat aekaliptus //

go for the Eucalyptus grove

xuʁʃat aekaliptus ze aja biktse aːːː /

the Eucalyptus grove was at the end ah

besof eːeːezoʁ amataim //

at the end of the plantation area

ʃeajta ʃama efo ʃeʃam aju aʁbe mataim //

there were there lot of plantations

tamid //

always

tapuxim //

apples

eːveː //

eh and

paʁdesim ve veze //

groves and this

besof aXXX ajta ejze xuʁʃat ekaliptus //

at the end there was maybe an Eucalyptus grove

zaja makom noʁa meanjen lalexet elav //

it was a very interesting place to go

ʃam aju meuʁot ʃel doʁbanim /

there were dens of porcupines

veaja ʃam kol minej dvaʁim ʃeaja /

and there were all kind of things that were

kaxaːmeanjenim /

let say interesting

mexapsim //

looking for

veajaom xamsin kaʃe /

and it was a terrible hot day

jeladim lo maʁgiʃim ʃejeʃ xamsin //

children do not feel the heat

aval aʁ# amoʁa azot /

but that teacher

ex ʃiganu lexuʁʃat aekaliptus /

as soon as we arrived to the eucalyptus grove

itʔalfa //

(she) fainted

itʔalfaːːː /

fainted

niʃkeva alagav /

lying on the back

veːːː /

and

jəladim bekita alef obet /

kids in the first or second grade

anlo jaxol lihot batuax im zealef obet /

can not be sure if it was first or second grade

avalo joteʁ mize /

but no more

veːːː //

and

ma osim //

what to do

atdatjəladim /

we were only kids

az po meanjen kə# /

so here it is interesting

jeʃ //

there is

anaʃim ʃeaxaʁkax gadlu /

people who later grew

kol exad anaxnu ʁainu ma /

everybody saw what

mauajaː /

what he was

exu itnaeg ʃuaja jeled /

how he behaved as a kid

vemaːːːze //

and what is

lemaʃal exad mehajəladim //

for instance one of the kids

tafas even //

caught a stone

kazot //

like this

neemad la məal aʁoʃ /

stood over her head and said: " guys

u amaʁ xevʁe (laughter) //

(laughter)

zot izdə# (laughter) /

this is an opp

zot izdamnut //

this is an opportunity

e bou naaʁog ota (laughter) //

lets kill her "

laughter

(laughter)

[laughter]

(laughter)

eːani sipaʁti lo izkaʁti lo edze /

eh I told him I reminded him this

lifnej kama ʃanim /

few years ago

(laughter)

ajalo jomuledet ʃivim //

he had his seventy Birthday

az u izminoti /

so he invited me I reminded him

izkaʁti lo /

edze (laughter)] //

this (laughter)] //

mize ze haja uzi /

who was it ?Uzi ?

uzi aʃkenazi //

Uzi Ashkenazi

(laughter)

ma hu nija /

what he became ?

haiʃ haze /

this man

lo ua saxakol /

no all in all he

naage al masait delek /

drove a gasl truck

kolaxajim //

all his life

avalze jeled ʃe /

but this is a kid that

uaja i# jeledeː buʁga# /

he was a child

meːmiʃpaxa gamne#nu /

of a family also very

miʃpaxa ʃegam hiku oto haʁbe //

from a family who beat him a lot

kaʃa //

very tough

keːːːn hu mu# mimʃaxa ʃe /

yes he is from a family that

ʃe ʃajaʃam aba make //

there is a violent father

XXX

X //

veze im aba maze a / aba make //

and that is with such a father a violent father

aba ʁotseax //

a killer father

mm //

ma ʃeaja ose lajəladim ʃlo //

what he was doing to his kids

aj //

jaːːː //

WOW !

az ze dugmaːːː /

so this an example

kaxa ex ajəla# /

this is how the kids beco

kitsonit //

extreme

jeled axeʁ lemaʃal /

another kid for example

jitsxak landesman ʃeaːja ze /

Yitzhak Landesman that was

u jaʃaʁ itxil leaʁgen tainjanim //

he immediately started to organize things

mm //

XXX

ata tov /

you are good

XXX

iʃtovuaja //

he was a good man

u ʃalax oti lapaʁdes //

he sent me to the citrus grove

leavi eʃkoliot //

to bring grapfruits

u amad vesaxat laeʃkoljot //

he stood over her and squeeze the grapfruits

a: /

mits eʃkoljot at lo jəxola letaeʁ //

grapfruit juice into the mouth

lo lakaxnu itanu majim veze //

we did not bring water and this with us

veila#

[vei la#]:

mi lakax az majim (laughter) /

who took water at that time

ken //

haja ben exad /

there was one boy

ejze tuʃija /

what an ingenuity

lejeled katan //

for a young kid

ʃeaba ʃelo aja nahag //

that his father was a driver

ʃel masait //

of a truck

azu ʃalax oto likʁo leaba ʃelo ʃejavo im amasait //

so he sent him to call his father to bring the truck

lakaxat ota //

to take her

vebemet kaxa itsilu ota //

really that's how they saved her

iata meta /

she would be dead

biʃvize ʃehiʃkenu otaːmits eʃkolijot /

because we let her drink grapfruit juice

vesamu ota axaʁkax bamasait XXX //

and put her later in the truck

laughter

tjaalla //

Wow

(cough)

azot dugmaː /

so this is an example

kama ʃeajaːjladim //

how it was with kids

vedze atdat ze lo aja ejze eʁua /

and it was you know not such an event

nlozoxeʁ ʃeaaoʁim ʃeli dibru iti axaʁkax alze omaʃu //

i don't remember that my parents talk to me about it later

zeoteʁeː (caugh) /

it is more eh

(noise) lo /

(noise) no

avaʁ /

passed

aval //

but

zeu azzeaːːː //

so that's the

hahavaj ʃelhaːːː /

that was the way of life of the

ʃelajəladim batə# ajuod /

of kids maybe there were more

a# dvaʁim meanjenim //

interesting things

amos aavodot ʃeajitem osim //

Amos the works that you were

avodat jeladim //

children's labor

avodat jeladim tiʁʔi aː /

chlidren's labor look ah

avdu a# /

worked

kmoʃamaʁti akibuts lo itasek /

as I have said the Kibbutz did not dealt

[XXX]

akibuts asak beisaʁdut //

the Kibbutz dealt with surviving

jəladim kvaʁ mikita vav ani xoʃev //

children from the sixth grade I think

e /

ulaj afilu paxot //

maybe even less

ulaj afilu mikita daled //

maybe even from the forth grade

daled /

forth

aju xajavim laavod //

were obliged to work

zot omeʁet axrejatso# /

that's mean in the afternoon

axʁej atsohoʁajim /

in the afternoon

lomdim ad ʃtemesre /

studying until twelve

jotsim laavoda /

going to work all the kids were going

kolajəledim aju jotsim ken jəladim //

batsaaʁajim /

noon time

vəbəkita daled aju ovdim ulaj ʃaa vaxetsi //

in the forth grade they were working maybe one hour and half

(cough)

bekita vav kvaʁaju ovdim ʃaloʃ ʃaot oze /

in the sixth grade they were working three hours and that

ad gilam joteʁ gdolim /

up to older ages

XXX aju ovdim bixlal baanifim //

that worked in the different agricultural sectors

eːːːm /

e::m /

aval ma ze avodot /

but what does it mean works

axi kaʃot ʃejiʃnam aavodot //

the hardest that exist works

aja meː /

there was

abanot tiplu bijladim naxon /

the girls took care of the children isn't it ?

aja tsaʁix laasot ejzoʃei xumtsa /

had to to do a kind of acid

habanot tiplu bijladim //

the girls took care of children

lololo mapitom /

no no what you are talking about

lo /

no

mapi# /

what you are talking about

mitsad ʃeni //

from the other point of view

joteʁ meuxaʁ /

azlo azaju jotsim /

XXX /

ʁak kulam jaxad //

only everybody together

ku /

every

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